TimesTalks: Paul Krugman: How Deep in Debt Can America Go?

The words equality and inequality have been been thrown regarding so often times that they fetch a knee jerk sickening reaction. People just don’t want to listen with regards to it even if they recognize the respective abuses and corporate influence over government policy. Anything that is endlessly regurgitated for decades, passionately opinionated, and staged by unfitting messengers may become ridiculously dull and inspire an momentum shrug. This includes pushy religious moralizing babble by rich adulterous preachers, factional agenda by poorly educated foolish demagogues like Al Sharpton, or appeals to income equality by college educated white children of the bourgeois. Whenever their mouths open we want them shut without delay since we perceive the background of hypocricies, corruption, temporary fad following behavior, lack of education, superstition, and blatant factional interest. Decades of the enthusiasti babble and counter-babble has trained us to ignore it as an irritating noise akin to one found on crowded subway platforms.

It doesn’t aid that Americans have to live in a hyper ideological outstanding power that no longer has an ideological outstanding power competitor. Cold war contest at least permitted for an uttermost opposite point of view to be staged to the world and brought attention to blatantly apparent difficultnesses like race relations. However, the world wasn’t faced with a “fair and balanced presentation”. Non-superpowers had to endure decades of a circumstance similar to a innovative news talk show with two guests talking over each other (or Jerry Springer). The talking head equivalents, from Moscow and Washington DC, poured at each other endless streams of factual selective information mixed with propaganda. Factual positive domestic developments and enemy’s factual shortcomings were of course exaggerated. Besides exaggeration, everything was viewed through an more and more sharpened and distorting ideological lens. On top of all these lies, the intelligence agencies of both countries waged endless information/propaganda warfare directed at the whole globe. After decades of this full orchestra brainwashing, one society at long last collapsed and started dealing with reality. After hitting rock bottom, Russians at long last started to at least undertake to be goal to be attained when it comes to actual statistics, numbers, scientific findings, and facts on the ground. Basing national policy on faith based notions of the Soviet dream and way of life proved to be destructive. The Russian society nevertheless readily accepted American capitalism (to a higher degree than Germans or Japanese) since it was easy to replace one rigidly ideological invent for another. We’ll see American gangster finance live in Eastern Europe long after it declines here.

United States did not undergo a similar transformation since they didn’t have to. The tired Soviet talking head that Americans were shouting at, in the end went blue in the face and had a heart attack. This was taken as finish affirmation of years of American propaganda as at least effective if not completely factual. Major players in the world (India, Japan, Brazil, Turkey, Poland) stood up and cheered like satisfied Jerry Springer guests while getting pats on the back for good participation. They stepped further from central command economic structures and dismissed worries formerly brought by socialist theorists.

Obviously it’s out of the question to disentangle ideology from empirical evidence. Even objectivity and scientific agreements are just forms of consensual intersubjectivity. However, it’s always possible to at least try to approach a circumstance like a uninterested anthropologist. It is surely possible for a rich white British person to study poverty in India and describe it with relative accuracy without being an aroused “bleeding heart” or being accused of being in the pocket of the poor Indian lobby group. An educated American may study the income inequality in Brazil or Mexico and describe the political circumstance without being accused of siding with a peculiar ideological faction in either of those countries. It is very possible to be comparatively uninterested when describing observable reality for the purposes of history, empirical prediction, and exploration to be used by person who craft policy. Americans unquestionably study and report on other societies like this all the time and even make predictions.

But what happens when say, academics in France or China observe the American domestic circumstance and conclude that the circumstance is negative and unhealthy? That’s right, they are without delay considered either darned socialists, know-nothing bleeding hearts, and/or ideologues with their own anti-American agenda. Even domestic Americans who give descriptions of unpleasing realities are scorned and rejected even if they are Ivy League respectable authorities on the subject (and in a great deal of case scorned because of that). This is analogous to a person with a drinking problem accusing everyone who mentions it that they have an agenda, that they need a drink as well, that they don’t know anything since they don’t live in the person’s house, or that they want the alcoholic to fail.

How did it come to this? Well, Americans suffer from the same problem Soviets did in the 1970s when it comes to living within a rigidly ideological social bubble. Americans got so applied to their own authorities blatantly using faith based ideological slogans, distorting facts, and being ridiculously one sided, that they started thinking all world’s authorities do the same. The way a thief thinks every one else steals, rigid ideologues are incapable of looking at opposing points of view without thinking it’s not ideology as well. This is best seen in the fundamentalist religious communities. The clergy had told the faithful that their lifestyle is moral for so long, that whenever the flock encounters humans who live/think differently, it considers the dissimilar lifestyles as immoral and backed by a sinister agenda.

It is time to commence differentiating amongst the blatant agenda pushing factional messengers (ex. Jesse Jackson and Dick Cheney) and milder subconscious agenda of persons attempting to be reporters and scientists. To this day, there are 20% of Russians who vote for the communist party and march in the streets and talk of how good it was for the duration of the slow rot in the 1980s. Similar ideological inertia will take place with the American elderly in the future after the current system transforms itself to survive in the progressed world. One might laugh at the notion of American propaganda (of the capitalist American dream) being as extensive imposed as in the authoritarian Soviet Union. However, before the American version of glasnost became available with the internet, severe opposing points of view were heard even less by the popular public. One never genuinely heard national television news stations and radio shows gravely talk about Scandinavian style welfare, using more cash on building real industry and jobs rather of more aircraft carriers to outspend Moscow, or creating a better quality of life than the Germans.

We will have to do not forget that severe discussion (on bettering American quality of life, on solidifying socioeconomic standing of an intermediate American, or creating Japanese level industrial workforce), did not materialize even after Soviet Union collapsed. Instead the only discussion that briefly bubbled up concerned the next plan of action for the American military.

It took a few paragraphs to prepare the reader for discussion when it comes to economic inequality in the United States. Why is the discussion of inequality even necessary? It’s evident that inequality amidst men exists naturally in any system. Western style hybrid capitalism as we know it is here to stay for years into the future in one form or another. Inequality found in United States however, stopped being sustainable a while back and is now the key cause of United States declining into the 21st century relative to rising powers of China and EU. The decline at this point, is unstoppable and the only discussion is whether it will be a slow gradual one (similar to Spain in 19th century), or a rapid one with potential social instability.

Yes, there were also the crushing economic burdens of being an expansionary ideological power and the transfer of heavy industry to challengers like China. These burdens pale equated to the root problem of monstrous inequality that permitted most of the deeper structural troubles and superficial sensations or changes to occur. We’ve heard people throw around rugged unresearched affirmations concerning how the top 1% owns half of the wealth and the like. Simultaneously, we’ve likewise heard the counter affirmations that the richest remunerate the greatest part of taxes. When such affirmations are thrown about, the discussion becomes another yapping Jerry Springer episode to tune out of.

There is actual historical selective information perpetually being collected, shown, and ignored by highly skilled people. Lets look at some.

In April of last year, one of the oldest and most read propaganda mouthpieces, The Wall Street Journal, decisive it was a good idea to throw a few bones to it is readers. The readers of course are the humans who consider themselves financially independent “middle class” and not just the equivalents of deliverance boys for the politically connected oligarchs. The readers are likely to include newer assimilated ethnic groups like Irish and Italians attempting to catch up and overworking to get their 60-150 grand a year. The oligarchs themselves would never turn to WSJ for their news and opinions. Summer of 2007 to summer of 2008 saw historic rises in gas prices and we saw persons like Lou Dobbs throw each and everyday fits concerning the illegal immigration. Occasional articles started out to appear in nationally propagated media to cater to rising concern regarding “middle class” problems. Some of these articles progressively started out to include deep probing studies in regards to structural and social infirmities of American civilization.

The source of the example article above comes from a very interesting Berkley study by Emmanuel Saez, a John Bates Clark Medal award winner in 2009 (Milton Friedman and Paul Krugman amidst the past winners), and possible influence on Obama’s taxation thinking. The info in excel format is here: (elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/TabFig2006.xls ). We see a absurd graph that shows a few things not readily noticed due to the study’s percentile breakdown of the top 10% of earners. The data shows annual wealth generation both including and excluding capital gains like stocks.

First, lets make an analyzation of the top 1% of the earners without looking at further and added wealth they get through capital investments. The reported real income (adjusted for inflation) of richest 0.01% of the working population (14,000 oligarch households making an intermediate of $16.5 million a year with at least $6.5 million annual income to be part of the group), grew 22% from 2000 to 2006. Average real incomes of the richest 0.1% of households (133,000 oligarch households making an intermediate of $3 million every year and requiring to make from $1.4 million up to $6.5 million every year to be share of the group), grew 8.5%. To be included in the richest 1%, a household had to just pass the measly threshold of $376,000 dollars a year. There were 1,333,249 households that made up most of the top 1%, were above 99% of American workers, but paled equated to 0.1% of the population. Many were the professional elites and not inevitably financial wizards and cash changers.

This means that 10% of 10% of 1% of the richest households (1 out of each 10,000 households), were capable to closely triple their annual net profit equated to 1,500,000 households who are likewise in the richest 1%. This is with capital gains EXCLUDED from net income estimates. It is very telling that the elite professional and managerial class numbering over a million (represented by nationalist democratic capitalist faction) was not competent to politically outspend less than 150,000 oligarch households in the last few elections. The attractiveness of financial capitalism permitted some nationalist democratic petty millionaires to be co-opted.

We may see how capital gains begin to matter exponential once you begin getting into 5% of the population. Capital gains only added 95 billion dollars in wealth for 90% of the population (split amongst over 130 million households) but they added 678 billion dollars to richest 10%. Incomes of the non-professional elite oligarch class, of those 0.1%+ jumped 60%. Capital gains only increased income of bottom 90% by just 2.3%. Republican leadership efficaciously convinced a big percentage of 50-100 grand a year white collar demographic that they’re working in their interest and that capital gains will in truth unburden them financially. It was noteworthy that the same tactic always applied on poorly educated religious blue collar demographic also worked on petty white collar. Even the petty millionaires, tied to highpriced property bubble speculation, got politically seduced sufficiently to throw their financial aid to the internationalist super rich.

In 2003, something historic happened. For the basi time since 1928, the top 1% of the population surpassed bottom 99% when it comes to rate of wealth generation. Rate of wealth generation is a good indicator of the overall political power of a faction when it comes to dividing the fixed resources of a nation.

Recently, government of Brazil has declared major success in reduction of poverty by citing that the top 10% went from owning 49.47% of annual national income in March 2002 to owning 46.31% in October 2008. Obviously we don’t recognise to what degree the stock crash and capital gains reduction in fall of 2008 played into that. The fact of the matter is that Brazilian leadership, presiding over one of the most economically unequal societies on the planet, cited rise in portion of bottom 10% and decline in percentage of top 90% as a measure of progress. In United States however, the richest 10% started out to earn 49.3% of national annual income in 2006. The GINI index of inequality shows that US has been getting more like Brazil for the last 30 years. US gap amongst the poorest and richest started off roughly in same category as other Western nations (even Norway) in the 1960s, and is now surpassing numerous South American nations in width.

CONCLUSION:

Political scientists consider extreme levels of socioeconomic inequality to be socially destabilizing in terms of factional infighting, violence, and authoritarian control of government organs by the elites for self enrichment. United States seems to have escaped social instability due to it is great power status and most of it is population living in an ideological bubble (and most people never traveling outside of the country). Only in comparatively recent times, did the top 30% of the population commence to get exposed to other hybrid systems through increased global travel.

The peak of American civilization seems to have occurred in 1968-1973 period. Data points to 1973 as being the furthest extent of American industrial capitalism and real physical influence for most of it is population. This strength even existed after being partially drained through resources committed to colonial occupation.

The richest 1% expanded their percentage of wealth far less than the bottom 99%. The rise in prices briefly corresponded to real incomes. American laborers were competent to save and better their condition without constantly being a few steps behind either inflation or oligarchal factions. The country had throughout history high degree of economic equality, the burden of natural resource imports was only in it is infant stages, and American laborers were at the peak of their political and purchasing power. This permitted them sufficient leverage to efficaciously compete with oligarch factions for influence over the federal government. Federal government was prompted to engage in a number of nationalist measures that benefited all rather of some.

The health of the American society caused a multitude of reversals for socialist causes in the imperial periphery of Western Europe. Reactionary forces in Europe were competent to stabilize their societies since American laborers demonstrated that American way of life is more effective than the socialist one. Many European states elaborate on JFK/Lyndon Johnson’s great society promises to solidify state capitalism.

In United States itself, the oligarchs took a number of years to reorganize and stage a comeback. The last nationalist president, who actually tried to preserve American way of life and appeal to all Americans rather of some, was Jimmy Carter. He tried to improve efficacy of American capitalism through deregulation, betterment of workers’ rights, new energy policy, and in truth leading imperial periphery through ideological example. He had the misfortune of being in control of the nation right after it is civilizational peak. Oligarchs efficaciously destroyed Carter’s reputation and formulated a reactionary wave that relied on formerly apolitical religious rural population. Wedge issues, militarism, racial tensions, and rural resentment versus the cities were exploited to put an likeable puppet (a former actor) in power. It took a few years to dismantle former nationalist policies of Johnson and Carter. Once dismantled, the oligarchs started out rapid elaboration of their income in late 1980s that just sped to the present day. In the original half of the 20th century, a heap of oligarchs were rooted to the American soil since travel on propeller aircraft was dangerous and ships/trains took a long time. That led to some early oligarchs to have nationalist tendencies, improve value of nearby land, and to focus on real industry. With increased globalization, the oligarchs of 1980s now looked at the whole world as their playground and their cosmopolitan sentiments had little allegiance to United States. Physical decline of US and the debt were irreversible and mass looting started out in the form of moving factories and personal material wealth abroad to other growing societies.

The fall of Soviet Union quickened the routine and permitted the looting to go on longer. American dollar could now be pushed onto hundreds of millions of new humans and the national debt could be expanded. The Bush administration was the most blatant show of strength by the top 1% and this amount of time saw the peak of illusionary oligarchal finance capitalism. In 2008, millions of elite pros and petty millionaires were at long last capable to outspend and wrestle away control from oligarchs. They were not making as much cash from property speculation and energy prices made their businesses less profitable and lifestyles more expensive. Even then, the poorest of top 5% were only competent to take power due to successful mobilization of college educated and blacks in sufficient numbers, financial capitalism declining for a few years, and occupational reversals in the Middle East. The resilience of the oligarchal faction is demonstrated by the fact their nominee only lost by less than 10% for the duration of the greatest economic crash since 1929.

Regardless of alter in leadership, the petty millionaires now in charge, will only advance their own interests. Interests of the bottom 90% will only be satisfied if they are congruent with the nationalist industrial interests of democratic power elites. Socioeconomic inequality produced over the last 30 years has become self perpetuating and may only be scaled down through decades of top down venture combined with growing industrial economy constructing tangible exports. Efforts in that direction are improbable until United States hits economic rock bottom with corresponding social destabilization. Today the top 1% live in a country within a country.

The fragmented elite America (that John Edwards liked to talk with regards to until the reputation assassination) is more modern and freer than any country in Western Europe and with access to better medicine/education, for less land/energy, and more political control over their governance. US is structurally a more modern South American society. The intermediate citizen thinks there is progression due to modern costly cars, clothing, and housing mingling with the rest. The old Anglo ruling ethnic group has learned for the duration of the gilded age to not make the extent of their material wealth obvious. In that, they followed their South American counterparts.

The newer assimilated ethnic groups of Irish/Italians/Slavs/Jews are more blunt with demonstrations of their material possessions. The consumeristic attempts of newer whites to fit in and catch up have infected all Americans. The poorest least educated people are encouraged to spend a month’s paycheck on a new gadget or brand name clothing. This is no dissimilar than a Soviet worker spending 2 months worth of salary to buy blue Western jeans from a black market in the 1980s. The only divergence amongst Soviet Union’s black market and gigantic electronics stores in today’s America, is that the latter is legal. However, the electronics and costume stores are also overshadowed by goods made in alien factories and operated by oligarchs exploiting cracks in capacity of American industrial capitalism to provide for people’s needs. This scheme is even less sustainable than the Russian one since it combines the Soviet infrastructural stagnation of 1980s with Yeltsin’s gangster capitalism and economic inequalities of 1990s. Only rapid industrial/technological breakthroughs may make national decline safe and gradual.

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